I'm selling these because I no longer have the opportunity to use them. The Deka Dodge was recovered during the dry season after a friend snagged it during last year's flood season. I received it after that. Therefore, there are some mysterious attachments, but they come off easily, so it can be used without any problems. The JoyCrea 178 SS was only used two or three times after purchase, and the hook circles are faint and in beautiful condition. Please feel free to ask about selling separately or requesting additional photos. Thank you.