Tai Rubber Necktie Hook, using titanium needles size 11, 4-hook setup. I made the titanium needle hooks and pulled on them with all my might, and they are considerably strong hooks. The needles are light, hard, and sharp, making them strong, and also light, which I think improves suction. I also use them for Tai Rubber fishing. ☆Please understand that these are handmade before purchasing. ☆Sea Bread #8 ☆Titanium needles, size 11, 4-hook setup, Hell Hook