I've used this for many years. It's worn out. I used to hit the front when I could make a lot of noise, and the back in the waiting room. The Zildjian Zymox has a very clear sound, and the rebound is also great. If you don't mind it being damaged for practice, how about it? Please look at the photos carefully before purchasing. I think it's a good product, but just one thing. It's heavier than other practice pads. That's why, as I've gotten older, I haven't been taking it out, so I'm selling it. Thank you.