These are timbales from the Tito Puente model. 12 and 13 inches. There is some dirt on the stand, but otherwise, there are no noticeable scratches or stains. I would like to sell them to someone who will take good care of them. Please purchase only if you understand that these are used items. Some washers are missing. They will be wrapped in cushioning material and shipped in a suitable cardboard box. Thank you.