SABIAN B8 PLUS RIDE 20" / PRO China Splash 8" Cymbal Set Both cymbals show signs of aging and use, and are in player's condition. Image 13 shows a scratch on the edge of the PRO China Splash 8". Weight: PRO China Splash 8" approx. 170g SABIAN B8 PLUS RIDE 20" approx. 2350g There are no cracks or splits, but there is some wear on the lettering, scratches, and dirt. However, there are no issues with use. Please check the images and understand that these are used items. If you are looking for something in new condition, are very particular, or are concerned about minor scratches, please refrain from purchasing. Please consider this item with the understanding that it is sold "as is" and returns are not accepted. Thank you for looking.