This is the current Vincent Bach 5C. Diameter: 16.25mm Cup Depth: M (Medium) Rim: MW (Medium Wide) - A rim that is rounded on the inside and outside, but relatively flat. Features: Suitable for those with strong lips who do not prefer a sharp contour. Produces a lively and rich sound. New Price: ¥12,100 (Silver Plated) (Reference: Nakano Boeki Co., Ltd.)