As you can see, the down has no flattening and is thick. Perfect for inner down. Because it's an embroidered logo, there's no peeling of the logo like the current type. Product Name: LIGHT HEAT PANT Light Heat Down Pants Product Number: ND18172 Size: Men's L Waist Width: 38cm / Hip Width: 53cm / Rise: 31cm / Inseam: 76cm Color: Black Material: Super LW RipStop Nylon (100% nylon), Filling / KODENSHI (R) PRODOWN (72% down, 10% polyethylene, 10% polypropylene, 8% other feathers)