Drum shoes! I tried these out because a friend was using them (for the sake of appearances). They're casual driving shoes. They have a black rubber (?) hard sole that's very thin (almost no heel). Taking out the insole makes them just right (depending on your preference). I think the response to the soles of your feet is good. The size is 45. They're made of brown faux leather (soft). I shortened the laces to adjust the instep. I've used them indoors 2-3 times. I'll include 2.5mm x 3m laces. I think they're perfectly usable as drum shoes, but they weren't what I was looking for, so please consider them.